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HITLER om ISLAM

Enligt Hitler är Islam en religion som passar för det Tyska folket. Hans samtal om ett antal ämnen noterades av hans närmaste förtrogna. En av dessa var Albert Speer, chefsarkitekt och Riksminister för rustningsindustrin, som citerade Hitlers beklagan om att tyskarna accepterat kristendomen i stället för en religion som skulle ha varit mer passande för dem:

"Hitler avslutade vanligtvis sina historiska spekulation med att påpeka:

'Ni förstår, det har varit vår en olycka att ha fel religion. Varför hade vi inte japanernas religion, som ser offret för Fosterlandet som det högsta goda? Även den Islamiska religionen skulle ha varit mycket mer passande för oss än Kristendomen. Varför måste det bli Kristendomen med dess foglighet och slapphet?'"

Ytterligare en aspekt, som Hitler prisade, var det faktum att Muslimerna bevarade antika texter och förde en kunskap vidare som annars skulle ha gått förlorad. Han påpekade de enastående prestationer som den Islamiska civilisationen åstadkommit på alla områden. Under ett möte på Wehrwolf på aftonen den 27 augusti 1942, sade Führern:

"Det är endast med det Romerska Imperiet som man kan säga att kulturen var en sak under regeringen. Även den arabiska regeringen i Spanien var oändligt förfinad: Många vetenskapsmän, tänkare, astronomer, matematiker, en av de mest humana tider, samtidigt en kolossal riddarvärdighet.

När, senare, kristendomen kom dit, kan man bara säga en sak:  barbarer.

Riddarvärdigheten som kastilianerna hade är faktiskt ett arv från araberna. Om Karl Martell bara inte hade vunnit vid Poitiers!: eftersom den Judiska världen redan erövrat oss - den där kristendomen är något slappt - vi skulle hellre ha tagit Islam, dessa doktriner som belönar hjältemodet: endast krigare når den sjunde himlen ! Med denna skulle tyskarna ha erövrat världen. Det är enbart genom Kristendomen som vi har hållits tillbaka."


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Hitler on Judaism,
Christianity and Islam
 " ISLAM, A RELIGION COMPATIBLE FOR THE GERMANIC PEOPLES "
 

THE BOOK OF ARYAN WISDOM AND LAWS

Christian belief, to be true, to be German, must be purged of all remnants of Jewish thought.

The Mosaic religion is really nothing but a doctrine for the preservation of the Jewish race.

The satanic Jew has been the divider of mankind; and has deliberately brought about religious division and chaos.

The following material has been translated from a pamphlet found in the NSDAP Hauptarchiv. Its German title was Der Bolschewismus von Moses bis Lenin: Zwiegespräch zwischen Adolf Hitler und mir, and it was originally published in Munich in March 1924 from unfinished notes on which Dietrich Eckart had been working in the autumn of 1923.

Reach for the Old Testament, a brief flipping of pages, and - "There," he cried, "the recipe from which the Jews always brew their hellish broth"!

Hitler's Table Talk is a series of informal, private conversations among Hitler and his closest associates, as recorded by Martin Bormann. The ex tempore remarks excerpted above are from July 1941 to June 1942, most late at night or in early morning.

The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practices a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them. In the ancient world, the relations between men and gods were founded on an instinctive respect. It was a world enlightened by the idea of tolerance.

Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate its adversaries in the name of love. Its keynote is intolerance.

Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of human failure.

It is a great pity that this tendency towards religious thought can find no better outlet than the Jewish pettifoggery of the [Jewish] bible Old Testament, for a religious Folk who, in the solitude of winter, continually seek ultimate light on their religious problems with the assistance of the Bible, must eventually become spiritually deformed. The wretched Folk strive to extract truths from these Jewish chicaneries, where in fact no truths exist. As a result they become embedded in some rut of thought or other and, unless they possess an exceptionally commonsense mind, degenerate into religious maniacs.

It is deplorable that the Bible should have been translated into German, and that the whole of the German Folk should have thus become exposed to the whole of this Jewish mumbo jumbo. So long as the wisdom, particularly of the Old Testament, remained exclusively in the Latin of the Church, there was little danger that sensible people would become the victims of illusions as the result of studying the Bible. But since the Bible became common property, a whole heap of people have found opened to them lines of religious thought which - particularly in conjunction with the German characteristic of persistent and somewhat melancholy meditation - as often as not turned them into religious maniacs. When one recollects further that the Catholic Church has elevated to the status of Saints a whole number of madmen, one realizes why movements such as that of the Flagellants came inevitably into existence in the Middle Ages in Germany.

I can imagine people being enthusiastic about the paradise of Mohammed, but as for the insipid paradise of the Christians! In your lifetime, you used to hear the music of Richard Wagner. After your death, it will be nothing but hallelujahs, the waving of palms, children of an age for the feeding bottle, and hoary old men. The man of the isles pays homage to the forces of nature. But Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery. A nigger with his taboos is crushingly superior to the human being who seriously believes in transubstantiation.

The instructions of a hygienic nature that most religions gave, contributed to the foundation of organized communities. The precepts ordering people to wash, to avoid certain drinks, to fast at appointed dates, to take exercise, to rise with the sun, to climb to the top of the minaret - all these were obligations invented by intelligent people.

The exhortation to fight courageously is also self-explanatory. Observe, by the way, that, as a corollary, the Moslem was promised a paradise peopled with sensual girls, where wine flowed in streams - a real earthly paradise. The Christians, on the other hand, declare themselves satisfied if after their death they are allowed to sing hallelujahs! All these elements contributed to form human communities. It is to these private customs that Folks owe their present characters.
 

  ISLAM, A RELIGION COMPATIBLE   
      FOR THE GERMANIC PEOPLES    
 

His conversations on a number of subjects were recorded by his closest confidants. One of these was Albert Speer, chief architect and Reich Minister of Armanents and Munitions, who quoted Hitler's regret the Germans accepted Christianity rather than religions which would have been more compatible to them:

"Hitler usually concluded this historical speculation by remarking: 'You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?'"

Yet another aspect which Hitler praised was the fact that Muslims preserved ancient texts and passed on knowledge which otherwise would have been lost. He noted the remarkable achievements of Islamic civilization in all fields. During a meeting at the Wehrwolf on the afternoon of 27th August 1942, the Führer said:

"It is only with the Roman empire where one can say that culture was a factor under the government. The government of the Arabs in Spain too was infinitely distinguished: Many scientists, thinkers, astronomers, mathematicians, one of the most humane times, at the same time as a colossal knighthood. When, later, Christianity came there, then one can say: barbarians. The knighthood that the Castilians have is actually one of Arab heritage. If Charles Martel had not overcome in Poitiers: since the Jewish world already seized us - that Christianity is something well of insipid - we would have better received Mohammedanism, those doctrines of the reward of heroism-: combatants alone have the seventh heaven! With that the Germans would have conquered the world. It is only by Christianity that we have been held distant.
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 Source:  http://www.israelforum.com/board/showpost.php?s=4d92ff96b019ca4350170f1c686d6b84&p=195174&postcount=1

 

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Old 05-19-2006, 12:40 AM  
Khalid
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Hitler also loved his breakfast, does that make "breakfast" bad?..or evil if you will?..
   
Old 05-19-2006, 12:49 AM  
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Hitler also loved his breakfast, does that make "breakfast" bad?..or evil if you will?..
lol. He also was pro gun control. I wonder if all of Israel forum considers gun control bas as well?
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Old 05-19-2006, 01:23 AM  
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Gun control is bad: http://www.jpfo.org
    
Old 05-19-2006, 04:07 AM  
andak01
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ISLAM, A RELIGION COMPATIBLE FOR THE GERMANIC PEOPLES
So, Savvy don't leave us hanging, you're siding with Hitler now? Or is it just that your [Jew´s] seething hatred is so great that you are willing to point to any source in order to put us down? Need I remind you that your logic:

Hitler = Evil, Hitler likes Islam therefore Islam = Evil

is full of holes.

If that logic were true, you ought to be able to take it in the other direction and prove that Pope John Paul II, George Bushes Jr. and Sr. and many others are evil based on their complimentary comments about Islam.

Finally, would it bother you if I question the reliability of your source, Mein Kampf ???? On IsraelForum no less? Laughable.
    
Old 05-19-2006, 09:31 AM  
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So, Savvy don't leave us hanging, you're siding with Hitler now? Or is it just that your seething hatred is so great that you are willing to point to any source in order to put us down? Need I remind you that your logic:

Hitler = Evil, Hitler likes Islam therefore Islam = Evil

is full of holes.

If that logic were true, you ought to be able to take it in the other direction and prove that Pope John Paul II, George Bushes Jr. and Sr. and many others are evil based on their complimentary comments about Islam.

Finally, would it bother you if I question the reliability of your source, Mein Kampf???? On IsraelForum no less? Laughable.
I don't have to be on Hitler's side or even a Nazi to engage in a critical study of their views. None of my sources have been taken from Mein Kampf. They have been taken from some of Hitler's other personal writings that have been preserved by books such as The Aryan Book of Laws and Wisdom and other writings by the Nazis. Now where have we heard that before? Is it just a coincidence that everyone who doesn't subscibe to the Jewish view of the Jewish Jesus - like the Nazis, Islam, The New Age Movement - does not like Jews.

Hilter's book 'Positive Christianity' was a repackaging of principles in which he asked Christians to reject the Jewish  Jesus of the Churches. The Nazis accepted every other religion besides Torah-based Judaism and Jewish  Christianity, The New Age Movement does the same, infact they envison a world without Jews and a Christianity that's free from Jewish influences. Christian replacement theologists are gulity none the less, and even they seem to be moving away from Jewish Christianity. The Christian crime over the ages has been that they have failed to see through deception. Some of Savitri Devi ( who was a very big admirer of Hitler) writings speak about Hitler envisoning the coming of a Kalki Avatar or World Leader who would come at the end of age and bring in a New World Order and finally finish the plague of Judeo-Christianity. There are a number of religions identified as Aryan religions. They detest Judaism and again feel that Christianity should be cut off from the Jewish Old Testament. The more research I do, the more I am starting to realize that God doesn't like two things: Jewish Torah-based Judaism and Jewish raditional "Christianity".
    
Old 05-20-2006, 04:23 AM  
Leon
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Hitler also loved his breakfast, does that make "breakfast" bad?..or evil if you will?..
He was a vegeterian, therefore all vegans are evil.

For someone who was quoted on the record as accussing Jews of bringing conscience and morality into the world - its amazing to still find the usual moral relatavists (including a typical Tel-Aviv Shenkinian) having such a sense of humor about it all.

Aneway, allow me to ramble and rant a little further: The Jewish festival of Purim commerates theJewish massacre of 75 000 Prrsians in Persia over 2,000 years ago. The Persian Prime Minister, Haman - was executed instead by Jews. His ten sons were also hung. The Jews get the power - on Persia -  on the merit of the Jewish Queen Esther (who also happened to be Jewish...but hid it from the Persian King until the last moment).

Every year since then on Purim, Jews are ment to read the scroll of Esther - (where the entire story of Purim is told.) Toward the end of the scroll, Haman's ten sons are mentiond. Added up, the numerical value (each hebrew letter/word has a numerical value) of their names make up the curious number of "1946."

Why is this relevant?

On October 16, 1946 was "Hashanah Rabbah". In the Torah, Hashanah Rabbah is "the day when Jewish "God" executes his "judgement" against the nations of the world. October 16 1946, also happened to be the day when ten leading Nazis were executed at Nuremberg...


To top it all off, here is wikipedia on one of the last Nazis to be hung:


"Heil Hitler! Dies ist mein Purimfest 1946. Ich gehe zu Gott. Die Bolschewisten werden eines Tages Euch auch hängen." ("Heil Hitler! This is my Purim celebration 1946. I go to God. The Bolshevists will one day hang you all.")

This last may be a Jewish reference to the "defeat" of Haman and the hanging of his ten sons, "enemies and persecutors of the Jews", in the Book of Esther. The Jewish holiday Purim commemorates that event. It is believed that Streicher was making the observation that, likewise, ten contemporary enemies of the Jews, himself included, were being hanged (the eleventh Nazi found guilty, Hermann Göring, had committed suicide the night before). Streicher was indeed executed on a Jewish holiday, but a very different one --- Hoshanah Rabbah (Purim that year fell on March 17). It took 12 minutes of hanging till he died.


the "Purim fest 1946" quote originally came from Newsweek.

Too much of a "conciedence" or Jewish power´s plans?

All the enemies of Israel today are basically faced to be judged accrodingly on the Jewish "Hashanah rabbah".
    
Old 05-20-2006, 06:56 PM  
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1. Their names correspond to"1946" (so what if its a different calendar? obviously there is ment to be some kind of connection, since the whole of today's world runs on this calendar ) 2. ten Nazis were hung - ten of Haman's sons were also hung 3. the event occurred on Hashana Rabbah 4. one of the last nazis to be hung screamed out "Purimfest 1946."

what are the odds? darn right.
   

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